Dara "Dstacked" Williams

It would be in the best interest that someone queue some theme music, preferably The Commodores' “Brick House,” when Dstacked walks in the room. Blessed with brains and body, this Detroit native can put you up on game, whether it's the economy or modeling. Hip-Hop Wired got a chance to talk to Dara “Dstacked” Williams about life as a glamour model, her ideal man and communicating honestly in the bedroom.

HipHopWired: So Miss Dstacked, where are you from?

Dstacked: I'm from Detroit, Michigan, but currently live in Atlanta, Georgia.

HipHopWired: From the Midwest. When did you make your way to down Atlanta?

Dstacked: I moved down here to go to college when I was 17.

HipHopWired: Were you modeling previous to school?

Dstacked: No I wasn't allowed to. I wasn't an adult so, nope. No, no, no.

HipHopWired: So the parents weren't having that?

Dstacked: Uh uh, they still aren't, but I'm just too old for them to stop me.

HipHopWired: So is this the defiance playing out…

Dstacked: It's not even defiance, I think of it as just being an adult.

HipHopWired: Oh so they just take your passions for what they are and respect that…

Dstacked: Or disrespect it whatever (laughs).

HipHopWired: Do they disrespect it?

Dstacked: Well I know they aren't pleased with it; my parents are professional people. Conservative people. However you know, everyone has to make their own decisions, and when I was growing up I was always told, “You gotta pay the cost to be the boss.” So when I paid the cost I was the boss, that's what it is.

HipHopWired: Yeah my father had suggestions every week on what I should be doing and I was like, I don't want to do that … ever.

Dstacked: Well they just come from a different school of thought, you know, you get a job, you stay there for 30 years and you retire. But I think in today's economy and today's world this thing here was set up for us to be capitalist, so there's a cost analysis you have to do.

HipHopWired: And being people of color, thinking of their time when they were coming up just to get that job and opportunity was cool, in it of itself. Chasing those dreams then didn't guarantee that you could feed your family.

Dstacked: Basically we were just getting our doors open to those opportunities, so for us to be able to go to school and get that job and make the same money or something close to it, was something positive. But now, people get laid off and you have to create your own opportunities, when somebody else is the business owner and they are paying for your benefits, putting dollars into your 401k, there's gonna be some things you're not gonna like on your job. So if you have to lean on a boss to pick up your slack, then you just gotta deal with it. And that's the catch 22 of working that job. I decided I didn't want anybody to pick up my slack.

HipHopWired: Okay, so lets take it back, you moved down here for school, what did you intend to study?

Dstacked: I completed my degree in Economics.

HipHopWired: Okay, so we should listen to you when you talk about this money.

Dstacked: You probably should (laughs).

HipHopWired: So how did you make the transition from economics into modeling?

Dstacked: Actually I always wanted to model, but I didn't know the genres. I didn't know what high fashion was. I didn't know what glamour modeling, or anything like that, so I didn't know where I fit, or what were the qualifications or what it took. I just knew I wanted to model. All models, when they start out, want to be fashion models because they don't know anything else. So I was looking into that and my parents used to trick me and take me to those castings where you have to play $200, and they would pay the money just to make me think everything looked like a scam.

HipHopWired: Damn that's tough. Just outright lied though?

Dstacked: They would lie to me like, “Lets take her over here and let her see this scam.” So they did that back when I was in Detroit and even after I got out of college briefly. So I would always go to the fake agencies and they would take pictures and you wouldn't get any work out of it, and then that was the end of the story until 2005.

HipHopWired: What happened in 2005 that got you started as a working model?

Dstacked: In 2005 I was working with this DJ named Brand New and he was doing a show at Clark Atlanta, and he needed girls to wear body paint. I went over there and I met Derek Blanks and Tony AC. Derek is a photographer, he did Ciara's new album cover and Tony is a make up artist. So I did that event but Derek didn't shoot that day but I did get to see his portfolio. A couple months later I went and paid him to shoot me, cause I wanted it to be professional. I put my photos up on model mayhem, and after that I thought I was going to be doing plus sized modeling and wound up being a glamour model.

HipHopWired: So what do you have currently going on?

Dstacked: Right now I'm in the upcoming Crave Magazine, which should drop in August. I just did some web work for Hush Magazine. It kind of resembles Smooth, but with breasts. I'm still in the Glamour Girls Calendar. I also have an upcoming foot fetish site and aside from that I art model at schools and sculptors and painters. I try to burn both ends of my candlestick.

HipHopWired: Since you've started modeling, have there been any crazy stories from one of your shoots?

Dstacked: Interesting stories from shoots are either funny or bad…

HipHopWired: And I'll take either or both…

Dstacked: Well let's go for both. I was in Ohio doing a photo shoot for my paysite and we're in this guy's mansion. I didn't know the guy, it was four models but this man was fixated on me. He wasn't even supposed to be in the house but for every shoot he needed to follow me and supervise me like an onlooker. So we get to this bathtub shoot, which is the background on my twitter page, and I said, “Look, we want to use the Jacuzzi, is that okay?” He said, “Sure, just come up in about a half an hour and let me clean it out.” So we go in there, this guy has like 6 bathrooms in his house. Not half baths, 6 full ones. So we start to shoot, the video man is there, the cameraman is there, we're in the shoot and this man decides he needs to get dressed and take a shower. He's running around buck naked in the background.

HipHopWired: Wow. That's a pretty bold move.

Dstacked: He decided he was going to show me what he was working with, even with the men in the room.

HipHopWired: He wanted to show you the amenities that come with using the house…

Dstacked: But this is what I'm saying though, if you gonna show somebody something, make sure its just for the females and actually worth looking at. He got nude a few times, of course when the camera guys realized that this man's penis was out they packed up. I had never seen men with equipment move that fast. They left the house and left me there in suds.

HipHopWired: Yeah most straight men don't function well with random penis free in the room.

Dstacked: And here was this man naked again. Luckily, I made it out just fine, he didn't try anything but he was just being lecherous. It was just crazy how he got naked regardless to the other men present.

HipHopWired: Well you know how some of these rich folk can be, once they focus on something that's it. Very goal oriented.

Dstacked: I guess. Just make sure its something to see.

HipHopWired: Okay so if you do it make sure you're putting on a show. So assuming that guy wasn't your type, what is the ideal man for you?

Dstacked: The perfect guy would need to be ambitious; you know the regular stuff. I need his IQ to be at least 150.

HipHopWired: 150 is regular? Isn't 130 a genius?

Dstacked: No that's just very above average, like 2% of the population.

HipHopWired: Okay. So we need a genius for starters…

Dstacked: I need his IQ to be very high, I need him to be ambitious, and I need him to be very funny. I like him to have a range of 2% to 6 or 7% body fat, and I like them to be about 6 feet tall or better, I'm flexible on that a little, but I can get pretty tall in shoes.

HipHopWired: How tall are you?

Dstacked: I'm 5'7 but in some 4-inch heels, I end up getting pretty tall. I want him to be family oriented. And about the IQ, I don't mean that he has to have a whole bunch of formal education.

HipHopWired: Yeah cause you can get a degree and be still stupid.

Dstacked: Right, and I also need him to be generous. One thing I can't stand is a cheap ass man. I'm not asking you to pay my bills, I just know that when it's 100 degrees out I'm gonna need you to turn on that AC and not roll those windows down to save gas. I can't do it, going to need a little bit of comfort.

HipHopWired: Okay so to sum it up you need a moderate height, physically fit, genius… that doesn't mind dropping a few dollars.

Dstacked: I'm just really attracted to a smart man. That will keep me around. That will keep me interested for a long time.

HipHopWired: So does that trump the other stuff?

Dstacked: I will say that I need it all in balance. You know who's a perfect example from fantasyland, Stringer Bell from “The Wire.” That dude right there, is the guy I'm talking about. He doesn't have to sell drugs but I need his mind to work like Stringer Bell's mind works.

HipHopWired: So a Stringer Bell minus the drug trafficking?

Dstacked: Yeah as we get up in age, I need you to keep your trapping to a minimum.

HipHopWired: So trap stars need not apply?

Dstacked: Yes. No trappers.

HipHopWired: So I follow you on Twitter so I know you field a lot of romantic questions, is there anything that you would like to share to the readers out there?

Dstacked: Yes and this goes to the ladies, we need to work on being better communicators. We always get on men about that, and I do think its true, but we need to work on saying what we actually mean. I would take it a step further to say that we do it in relationships as well with sex. What happens in a sexual situation is that you have these guys, they're 32 years old and they're still doing it bad. See a woman will like a guy and because they like him they don't want to hurt his feelings or ego.

HipHopWired: No don't do that, you better do some constructive criticism, tear him down properly so he can tear you down properly.

Dstacked: Nope, we don't do that. We got these guys walking around thinking that since they saw Mr. Marcus or Brian Pumper do something in Brazilian Bubble Butt Bitches that he feels like he learned something. I haven't slept with a lot of people but I have had to stop someone like, “Are you really doing that? Don't ever do that again. Are you vibrating? Don't vibrate.”

HipHopWired: Okay so leave the crazy movie positions in the movies you learned them from. And before we part, what are your goals with modeling?

Dstacked: My goal never has been to be famous, because that doesn't always translate into dollars, so my goal is to go into casting or event planning.

HipHopWired: Well said. So how can people find you?

Dstacked: They can check me out at dstacked.com or follow me on twitter @dstacked.