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Popular podcast host Taxtone uses some unique logic as what snitching and ratting is. And he thinks Tupac and Cam’Ron fit the description.

According Taxstone, 2Pac is a “rat” for not telling police who shot him, or who he thought had to do with shooting that left him wounded in Quad Studios in 1995, but later telling media outlets that he thought that Sean “Puff Daddy” Combs and The Notorious B.I.G. had something to do with it.

In a video interview with DJ Vlad, Taxstone reiterates a stance he took on the subject saying:

“If you get shot, and then you offer information on who might’ve had you shot or might’ve shot you, you just gave the police evidence in your case. When he said Biggie ‘n ’em got him shot…If I get shot right now and the cops say, ‘Who shot you?’ and I’m telling them I don’t know who shot me right?” he continues. “But I’m saying in public the niggas who shot me is from that building, what happens? They look to that building. You understand what I’m saying? That’s ratting.”

He compared 2Pac sharing who he thought shot him to “not pointing elbows.”

Mr. Taxstone also shared his thoughts on Cam’Ron divulging information on his 2005 Washington, D.C. shooting, saying:

“Same situation with Cam’ron with the whole Roc-A-Fella thing. When he was like, ‘Yo, I seen that Roc sign when the shots went off.'”

In case you forgot, Cam made the statement on his 2006 Jay Z diss “You Gotta Love It.”

Cam, who is no stranger to making statements on snitching jumped on his Instagram page to respond to the accusations.

In the clip Cam’Ron explains:

“I just woke up to a nigga talking about I’m snitchin’. Ayo listen, let me explain snitching to y’all mothafuckas. Snitching is when you have paperwork that you tried to send somebody to jail or you sent somebody to jail. Not what you hear in a rap song. Not what you say in an interview. Interrogation room. Not what you do in a video. Not in the streets. Jail bars. I actually went to jail for not snitching nigga.”

If there is anyone who knows what and what not a snitch is, it’s Cam’Ron. He still lives in infamy for his 60 Minutes interview where he said that he would rather move out rather than “snitch” on a neighbor who he knew was a serial killer.