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Over the years, GZA has displayed a thought process that’s on an upper echelon in his music and in interviews, so it’s no surprise that a thinking man’s game like chess would appeal to him. The FADER caught up with the Wu-Tang Clan lyricist at the Chess Forum in New York City to discuss how he first became acquainted with the game and more.

GZA also gave an interesting anecdote about how Brooklyn MC Jeru The Damaja and others rekindle his interest in chess when we was 21-years-old. Hear the legendary artist talk more about the game and his forthcoming LP Dark Matter in the footage below.

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