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Just 10 days shy of The Black Album‘s 10 year anniversary, Pharrell sat with Life + Time to discuss his contributions to what was thought to be Jay Z’s closing opus.

The Neptune producer describes himself as a “fan-artist,” and says “being in the music industry is one thing, but being among your musical peers and the people you admire is like walking through the halls of the Luvre.”

According to the super producer, he and Jay naturally clicked and have a working understanding. On The Black Album, P says the Brooklyn rapper was the “architect and the contractor.”

Pharell said, “With ‘Allure,’ I just wanted to hear him rhyme on something emotional, because he killed ‘Dead Presidents’ one and two. He’s crazy with a crazy, sick nightclub record, but when he goes emotional, it’s unbelievable. It’s like he connects to a couple past lives.”

Hear Pharrell recall his experience working with Jay Z working on The Black Album and Magna Carta Holy Grail‘s “Oceans” below.

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