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T.I. appeared on ESPN’s First Take and went toe-to-toe with Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman about police brutality and institutional racism.

T.I. as always been active and outspoken when it comes to issues affecting his community, but he has turned up the heat in recent months by challenging fellow rappers to join in Killer Mike’s #BankBlack challenge and by releasing his politically-charged EP Us Or Else.

Now that the EP has emerged from being a TIDAL exclusive to being available on all streaming and retail platforms, T.I. is out promoting the project and its message.

“I just wanted to use my platform to create some healthy dialogue to institute some change in the nation,” says T.I.

During his appearance he touched on a bevy of topics including his own transgressions with the police and how citizens are unfairly held to a higher standard than officers who have taken an oath to protect them.

“The law enforcement community and the government always preaches highly upon accountability when it comes to citizens who break the law and how they should be held accountable and brought to justice and how nobody should slip through the cracks,” he says. “But when it comes to police officers, their accountability is not always highlighted.”

T.I. also handled Stephen A. Smith’s “what about black on black crime” question quite eloquently, insisting that whenever someone brings that issue up during a police brutality discussion, they are simply looking for a way out of confronting law enforcement’s abuses of power.

Check out the clip below.

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