Joe Budden had the internet buzzing this weekend thanks to a clip he shared from an upcoming taping of his Revolt show State of The Culture.
Without much description, with the caption “just gonna leave this here and go,” Joe Budden dropped the bomb in the form of a clip which featured a heated debate between himself and his fellow co-host Scottie Beam. Joe gets BIG MAD at what he describes as “fake women empowerment” and Scottie not being mad Brittany Renner for sharing her sexual escapades in her recently released tell-all book.
Scottie holds her own despite Joe not letting her get much input in and makes the valid point that male rappers talk about women whom they have had sex with on songs all of the time.
As you can imagine the video made its rounds quickly starting a gender war where many came to the defense of Scottie calling out Joe for what they took as misogynistic take meanwhile men like Freddie Gibbs took this as their opportunity to die on a crappy hill.
If just a clip could spark the masses, imagine what the debate in its entirety will cause to happen. Is this definitely not the “state of the culture?” Or did Scottie and Joe’s heated discussion cast a new light on the culture’s problematic ways? You can see the fallout from Joe’s rage directed toward Scottie Beam in the gallery below.
Photo: Revolt / State of The Culture
Real shit Joe.— Big 🐰 (@FreddieGibbs) October 28, 2018
With all due respect my dear shut the fuck up. I been fuckin with this nigga Joe since he was a rapper, lol. My love for him has nothing to do with this post.— Big 🐰 (@FreddieGibbs) October 28, 2018
Tryna understand everyone’s argument against @ScottieBeam, ignore the fact that y’all think she hates men, men run their mouths abt who they messed w/ all the time & yet ppl take it as a joke— Kim. (@_KimChanel_) October 28, 2018
Might not be in a tell all but it definitely happens in songs/interviews mainly.
Whew, when I tell you @ScottieBeam is a strong one, because all this "Who hurt you?" "You hate men?" Just wouldn't fly with me. As if you have to hate men to notice their uncouth behavior and hope they'd want to be held accountable.— Golding (@GoldingGirl617) October 28, 2018
.@ScottieBeam is a beacon of light who won't be stopped or threatened by trash ass dudes who can't stand seeing women live their lives without apology. ya'll will stay pressed and we'll continue to lift her up. pic.twitter.com/Wn3s1cf413— Franchesca Ramsey (@chescaleigh) October 29, 2018
People think projecting their voice and being obnoxiously loud is what’s going to make them right even when their logic is flawed. And for Remy Ma to sit there and not back this black woman up is actually tragic to see. S/o to @ScottieBeam for holding it down ! https://t.co/uJhSqzsXy4— Alicia Daniella (@keepupwithle) October 28, 2018
Lol why y’all want me to condemn Brittany Renner so bad.— Openly Black (@ScottieBeam) October 28, 2018
Shoutout to @ScottieBeam for standing her ground because she couldn’t say shit without Joe accusing her of hating men. Renner’s tell all is corny but so are quite a few rap lyrics that detail fucking women. Renner ain’t even use real names https://t.co/mTWEs7iGNf— elexus jionde (@Lexual__) October 29, 2018
For the women defending Scottie Beam , *real question * what’s empowering about a tell all book about your sexual experiences with industry men? Who is it empowering? As a woman what does Renner’s book motivate you to do?— A (@alexandra_nich) October 28, 2018
Along with her valid point of men making tell-all raps, the shit @ScottieBeam calls out men for every week is much worse than what Joe is talking here. She calls out rape culture, which actually puts women in danger. The tell-all book looks corny, but not harmful in the same way. https://t.co/z47IvfWhK6— William E. Ketchum III (@WEKetchum) October 29, 2018
“Who hurt you?” “She hates men.” Joe Budden in response to a woman giving valid points. And this is why I side eye men who watch/listen to men like Joe Budden and Charlamagne, because THAT is the type of trash they identify with. No thanks.— Darius Lovehall Stan Account (@HustleAndFro_) October 28, 2018
It’s crazy how some ppl think Joe Budden makes valid points all because he looks like this 65% of the time.. pic.twitter.com/fMfp56YfOZ— Jus-Teen (@yiggerzz) October 28, 2018
Hey, have you heard Huncho Dreams? Any of Drake’s music? Hit Em Up? All the songs where strippers are mentioned by name? pic.twitter.com/bA2pqCAp0U— Ms. Monét (@Monae_Kel) October 28, 2018
Joe Budden and Charlamagne sound like every other ignorant twitter nigga. Why they have the platforms they do when they disrespect the hell out of women is beyond me. But that’s patriarchy for you.— Darius Lovehall Stan Account (@HustleAndFro_) October 28, 2018
I'm so confused. Why did Joe Budden post this thinking that it'd make him look good. This is really wild and definitely makes him look like he just hates women. Especially when they speak. Specifically when they speak up for other women. https://t.co/9vqOjWgmpZ— It's Okay To Cry 💔 (@kat_blaque) October 29, 2018
I forgot that men get to determine what women's empowerment looks like— J Thee Warrior (@jmeekzzz) October 28, 2018
doing what dumbass niggaz do -- yelling over her. Not letting her speak. Invalidating her concerns. This is how sexism works and Joe is a walking talking embodiment of it.— It Was Carlton All Along (@CarltonJordan) October 28, 2018
if that nigga HATIN call him joe budden.— mrs.sir, m.a. (@lizslaiborne) October 28, 2018
how gross. even the body language is violent. why are u so red?? whew chile the TOXIC masculinity 🤢🤮 https://t.co/6PptlvWJoP
Charlamagne and Joe Budden are poisoning the culture. We got young impressionable boys and girls being shaped by them. We got older cats who are gonna remain stuck in their ways because men like that having huge platforms makes them feel like their own sexist ideas are valid.— Darius Lovehall Stan Account (@HustleAndFro_) October 28, 2018